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    Stephen Covey on Leadership -- Interview by Sharif Khan
    Copyright © 2006, Sharif Khan

    "The call and need of a new era is for greatness. It's for 
    fulfillment, passionate execution and significant contribution." 
    - Stephen R. Covey, from The 8th Habit: From Effectiveness to 
    Greatness
    
    
    Making a rare public appearance in Toronto at the Mississauga 
    Living Arts Centre, world-respected leadership authority and 
    author of the international bestseller, The 7 Habits of Highly 
    Effective People, named the #1 Most Influential Business Book of 
    the Twentieth Century, Dr. Stephen R. Covey spoke on his latest 
    book, The 8th Habit: From Effectiveness to Greatness to a packed 
    audience.
    
    Having taught principle-centered leadership for over four 
    decades, this living legend and world icon, with his quiet energy 
    and grace, epitomized a call to greatness and earned the respect 
    of the audience -- standing as a grandfather figure for 
    unleashing human potential in many generations.
    
    A hero to millions, Dr. Covey is known the world over for his 
    landmark work around helping people take profound ideas, 
    philosophies, and principles and distilling them into easy-to-use 
    daily habits that anyone can apply. In his inspirational 
    presentation at the Living Arts Centre, he conveyed simple yet 
    very powerful gems of wisdom that I found practical and useful. 
    For example, if you want your children to develop a love of 
    learning and never have to rag on them again for not doing their 
    homework and not getting better grades, simply ask them when they 
    return from school, "Teach me what you've learned today." By 
    using this one simple habit, Covey claims he's never had a 
    problem encouraging his children to learn because teaching is the 
    best way to learn.
    
    Another gem he talked about is the habit of seeking to understand 
    before being understood through empathic listening. In the 
    audience of over 800 people, he asked how many people had any 
    formal training on listening; only 13 hands went up revealing 
    just how ego-centric of a me-me-me culture we live in. Covey 
    related how many Native Indian tribes use what's called the 
    Talking Stick which is used in all meetings where the person 
    holding the Talking Stick is the only person allowed to speak 
    until he or she feels understood; when the possessor of the 
    Talking Stick feels completely understood, then, and only then, 
    is the Talking Stick passed on to the next person. This creates 
    an incredible understanding and synergy among the team. Every 
    business would do well to have a Talking Stick!
    
    Covey then went on to the crux of his message which is the 8th 
    Habit of becoming an island of excellence in a sea of mediocrity 
    by finding one's voice and helping others to find theirs. 
    According to Covey, the main problem is that businesses are still 
    trapped in the old paradigm of Industrial Age thinking even 
    though we're well into the Knowledge Worker Age. What's required 
    is a new paradigm he calls the "whole body paradigm" of 
    integrating body, mind, heart, and spirit which he respectively 
    equates to the principles of discipline, vision, passion, and 
    conscience. The Industrial Age is still very much focused on the 
    body (things, systems, structures, procedures, efficiency, 
    bottom-line). But Covey estimates that approximately 80 percent 
    of all the value added to goods and services now comes from 
    knowledge work versus things. Twenty years ago that number was 
    the inverse: only 20 percent.
    
    So the key is not behavior – it's the map. The key is the 
    accuracy of the map. Once paradigm shifts the behavior will also 
    shift. Covey clearly illustrated this point by asking everyone to 
    close their eyes and point "North." When he asked us to open 
    our eyes and look around, I noticed everyone was pointing in 
    different directions! In a similar vein, the majority of 
    organizations have their people pointing in different directions; 
    sighting a recent Harris Poll, Covey states that "only 37 percent 
    of workers say they have a clear understanding of what their 
    organization is trying to achieve and why." No one knows where 
    true "North" is. There is no moral compass, no conscience, no 
    guiding spirit.
    
    Part of the solution, according to Covey, is to have a 
    transcendent goal, what he calls a WIG or Wildly Important Goal, 
    that serves a greater purpose. Only once this goal is clearly 
    communicated to everyone in an organization can quantum 
    improvements begin to happen in the workplace.
    
    Here is my interview with Dr. Covey revealing his latest insights 
    from his most recent book, The 8th Habit: From Effectiveness to 
    Greatness:
    
    What sacrifices have you made to be where you are today?
    
    I have worked very hard to dedicate my personal and professional 
    life to principlecentered living. I am driven by a passion and 
    conscience to spread understanding for principles and how to 
    apply them to reach greatness. To that extent, there is no 
    sacrifice – only a passionate, relentless commitment to my work, 
    family, community and church to make a lasting difference.
    
    What in your opinion is the most important attribute of a leader 
    and why?
    
    I believe the most important attribute for a leader is being 
    principle-centered. Centering on principles that are universal 
    and timeless provides a foundation and compass to guide every 
    decision and every act. I've based my life's work on promoting 
    principles and teaching the power that resides in principle-
    centered leadership. Principles are not my invention; they are 
    self-evident and are found throughout the world. If you look at 
    all enduring philosophies, religions and thoughts, you will find 
    principles such as integrity, compassion, trust, honesty, 
    accountability and others at their core. I simply translated 
    these principles into a framework of habits, which when followed 
    with consistency and frequency transforms one's character and 
    allows one to earn the moral authority necessary for enduring 
    leadership.
    
    I must also clarify the definition of leadership, which is sadly 
    and narrowly defined as position, title, status or rank. This is 
    formal authority and not necessarily leadership. Through years of 
    study, teaching and working with people all over the world, 
    from all walks of life, I have determined that leadership is: 
    Communicating to people their worth and potential so clearly that 
    they come to see it in themselves. It is the influence we have 
    with others to help them discover their own voice, to find their 
    own purpose, to make their unique contribution, and to release 
    their potential, that truly defines leadership. Thus, leadership 
    extends to the many personal and professional roles we play – as 
    workers, parents, children, teachers, students, swamis, you name 
    it – and the choice we make to live by principles to help others 
    find their voice.
    
    In your book, 8th Habit, you talk about finding one's voice and 
    developing one's "unique personal significance." How does one 
    begin doing that?
    
    To achieve greater heights each person must be challenged to find 
    their voice – their unique personal significance and purposeful 
    meaning – and help others to find theirs. Voice lies at the nexus 
    of talent, passion, need and conscience. When anyone engages in 
    work that taps into their talent and fuels their passion – that 
    rises out of a great need in the world that they feel drawn by 
    conscience to meet – therein lies their voice in life. The 8th 
    Habit is all about how to find your voice and help others to 
    find theirs.
    
    What leader do you really admire and why?
    
    One immediate leader who comes to mind is Muhammad Yunus, founder 
    of the Grameen Bank. His story is one that illustrates the path 
    to finding one's voice and helping others find theirs. Muhammad 
    saw a need, felt his conscience move him to try and fill that 
    need and applied his talents and passion to fill it. In the 
    process, he found his voice and helped others to find theirs.
    
    Muhammad wanted to help his impoverished fellow citizens in 
    Bangladesh. He met a woman who made bamboo stools only to make 
    two U.S. pennies each day. He inquired about her work and found 
    that the woman had no money to buy the necessary bamboo, so she 
    was forced to borrow money from a trader on condition that she 
    sell him her finished product at a price he dictated. This poor 
    woman in essence was held hostage by this trader.
    
    This woman was not alone, there was an entire village of 42 hard 
    working people working in unbearable circumstances and Muhammad 
    calculated that it only required $27 U.S. dollars to help them 
    out. He immediately gave the money to the people and told them 
    it was a loan to be re-paid when they were able.
    
    Muhammad even went further to ask the local bank to loan these 
    villagers additional money and offered himself as a guarantor. 
    Much to the skepticism and surprise of the bankers, the villagers 
    paid every penny back on several loans.
    
    Muhammad eventually expanded this loan program by creating his 
    own microcredit lending institution called the Grameen Bank, so 
    he could help numerous villages.
    
    Grameen Bank now works with more than 46,000 villages giving 
    micro-loans, lending approximately half a billion dollars a year 
    to empower the poor (96% of whom are women) to produce and sell 
    their goods and build housing. So far, the bank has assisted 3.7 
    million people. The micro-credit movement has now spread 
    throughout the world.
    
    What advice would you give youth who will become future leaders 
    of tomorrow?
    
    In my 8th Habit book I share the idea that everyone chooses one 
    of two roads in life, whether you're older or younger, man or 
    woman, rich or poor. The most traveled road is the one that takes 
    us to mediocrity and the other less traveled road takes us to 
    greatness and meaning. The first road limits us and prevents us 
    from realizing our full potential. This road is often the quick-
    fix or short-cut approach to life. It often lures us to it when 
    we don't take accountability for ourselves or see ourselves 
    as victims. My advice to the youth is to avoid the road of 
    mediocrity. It's probably hard for them to see into the longterm, 
    but if they will try to see themselves as human beings with vast 
    potential, and see that next to life itself their greatest gift 
    is choice – they can choose their responses to whatever comes to 
    them in life, and take responsibility for their choices, their 
    behaviors, their feelings and choose to create their future.
    
    My son, Sean, wrote The 7 Habits of Highly Effective Teens 
    to help [young people] become their best selves. He speaks 
    wonderfully to the youth (much better than I), and I would 
    recommend his book to anyone wanting to start good habits 
    at a young age. 
    



    Writer's Resource Box:
    Sharif Khan (http://www.herosoul.com; sharif@herosoul.com) is 
    a freelance writer, motivational speaker, coach, and author of 
    Psychology of the Hero Soul, an inspirational book on awakening 
    the hero within and developing people’s leadership potential. 
    He provides inspirational keynotes and leadership seminars and 
    also helps companies develop empowering content through his 
    copywriting services. To contact Sharif directly, call 
    (416) 417-1259.




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